In the following interview, Father Reggie Urban,
pastor of Prince of Peace Parish in Great Bend, and Don Marrs of DMA
Architects of Salina, discuss the renovation of St. Rose of Lima Church.
Southwest Kansas Register: What prompted the
renovation project?
Father Reggie Urban: The renovation project at St. Rose
was prompted by both practical and liturgical needs. The outside steps
were showing serious deterioration; the church was not very accessible,
especially during the winter months; the single bathroom was very
inadequate; the worship space also needed new carpet and repainting.
Liturgically there was a great need for: an adequate
font/pool for baptism, especially for adults; a special place to display
the oils; a bigger gathering area; a way to bring more light into the
church, and to consequently highlight the beautiful stained-glass
windows.
SKR: How did you select the architect?
Father Reggie: Don Marrs was chosen because we heard
that he was a good architect, very aware of the Catholic Church’s
liturgy. We gathered this from Father Frank Coady, a priest of the
Salina diocese, as well as my uncle, Gilbert Urban, who was a carpenter
in Salina. Don also has connections here through his wife Mona Guesnier
who grew up in Great Bend. He seemed like the right person for a number
of reasons.
SKR: Were there any special instructions or
requests made by the parish committees involved in this project?
Father Reggie: We had a number of commissions involved,
the Pastoral Council, Liturgy Commission, Property Commission, and
Finance Commission. We wanted Don and Dave Cruse, the general
contractor, to retain as much of the old as possible. We also wanted the
addition to be a great space of hospitality and welcome, as well as
incorporating the practical and liturgical needs. We wanted the addition
to look as if it had been there all the time.
We tried to get as many opinions and thoughts as
possible without having the project drag due to too much input. We also
consulted with Bishop Gilmore, Msgr. Brian Moore, and Father Bob
Schremmer, V.G., so as to have diocesan approval. All three were very
helpful and supportive. I also kept former pastors posted about what we
were doing. They were very supportive too. I also used our Church’s
recent documents on art and environment as well as the insights of
Marchita Mauch, using her book "Shaping A House For the Church," as a
resource. Marchita has served as a liturgical and design consultant for
many churches and renovations. She was that for us by way of her book.
Being a priest for 30 years helped me to be "sure" about what we should
do to make the space functional as well as aesthetic; simple as well as
noble.
SKR: Mr. Marrs, what was your specific task?
Architect Don Marrs: My task was to design an enclosure
for the exterior steps to the church which included accessible restrooms
and a chair lift to get from the ground level to the church level. The
addition extends out 13 feet, 5 inches from the church by the width of
the church which is approximately 56 feet. We were limited by the 13
feet 5 inch dimension because of the buildings location on the property
adjacent to the existing street. That was all the property that was
available to build on.
SKR: What is significant about the design?
Mr. Marrs: The most significant part of this design was
to create the addition so that it blended with the existing building
architecture both in the exterior and on the interior. I am satisfied
that we were able to accomplish this. We also were able to introduce a
gathering space with the baptismal font to bring this church up to date
with present church architecture design practices.
SKR: What challenges did you have to overcome
in order to design the addition to the front of the structure?
Mr. Marrs: The largest challenge was the lack of
property to build on. To make the addition blend into the architecture
of the existing building (was another challenge that) required extensive
use of cut stone that pushed the budget. The stone is Kansas limestone
called "Cottonwood Limestone". The brick came from the brick plant north
of Great Bend, Kansas Brick and Tile. The brick plant was asked to match
the brick as closely as they could. We used a stone coated metal roofing
shingle which is shaped to match Spanish tile. It was used because of
its appearance and its ability to be formed to fit the roof shape and
slope required of the design.
SKR: What is now different as you enter the
church?
Mr. Marrs: The main difference is that you enter at
ground level and have an interior stair to ascend to reach the worship
space. At the top of the stairs you encounter the baptismal font which
is located in a gathering space which was enclosed under the choir loft.
Locating the baptismal font in the entry is new in older church
buildings. The addition made that possible.
SKR: How has the interior of the church
changed?
Father Reggie: The worship space has not changed. The
floor covering was replaced, new ceramic tile was installed down the
aisle and on the altar platform. We repainted the existing worship space
from the window sills down as well as the front and rear walls. We also
touched up a few places on the archway over the altar. We removed and
repaired the old heat/AC vents above the statues of Mary and Joseph,
improving the look of those two shrines a lot. We simplified the two
shrines in the rear of the worship space by moving the statue of St.
Rose to the south wall of the narthex and abbreviating the stands for
the statues of the Sacred Heart and Our Lady of Guadalupe. We also
installed safer and more elegant candle stands for both shrines. Tile
was placed on the floor beneath the shrines to make it safer and look
better. We also repaired a little of the gold-leaf on the tabernacle
stand and St. Joseph shrine. My cousin, Tim Linenberger, from Salina did
this. He is a professional church painter. He paints churches all across
the state. We also had him add gold-leaf to the Baptism pool. He also
repainted the gold-colored "ribs" in the ceiling above these rear
shrines since the soot had build up on them over the years.
SKR: Were any doorways and or stained glass
windows moved?
Mr. Marrs: The existing stained glass door transoms were
relocated to above the new entrance doors and also to the doors leading
from the gathering space into the worship space. Nothing was lost or
misplaced as part of the design.
SKR: Who made the ambry shaped as a dove that
is located above the baptistery?
Father Reggie: I asked Steve Swigart, a parishioner, who
owns Legends Fine Art Gallery here in Great Bend, to find someone who
could make the dove out of metal or wood. He contacted Tom Nulton from
Hoisington to do this. Tom tried metal initially but decided wood would
be a better medium. As a consequence he made the dove-shaped ambry out
of light oak with a darker oak as a trim piece. I wanted him to make
something that looked like a flame and a dove at the same time for the
sake of symbolizing the Holy Spirit coming down at Pentecost.
SKR: Has the seating capacity changed?
Father Reggie: We gained some seating even though we
lost two of the longer pews in the middle pew sections due to the new
interior wall. This was the result of removing six non-functional
radiators and being able to put in more short pews on both sides. We
also moved the piano out of the pew section on the front south side to
the already-existing small platform on the north side where the Baptism
stand was previously situated. We gained seating here as well. It also
opened up more space for people in wheel chairs/carts.The seating
capacity at St. Rose is 300 as a consequence of the renovation. We also
gained about 15 seats with the new narthex, and, of course more standing
room.
SKR: How has the floor covering changed?
Father Reggie: The floor coverings that were replaced
are carpet and ceramic tile. The carpet is a combination of brown
colors. It is a tight-weave with special backing so as to be flush with
the tile. There are three colors of tile -- variations of light brown.
The tile has an antique-looking, broken edge to compliment the age of
the building. The tile was made in Italy. The carpet does go under the
pews, with the center aisle being tile. We decided to put crosses made
of black diamond-shaped marble pieces into the center aisle in order to
break up the length of similar color. We also put the tile in the shape
of a cross around the Baptism pool and the altar so as to connect these
two primary sacraments of initiation.
SKR: Mr. Marrs, what is your final assessment
of the project?
Mr. Marrs: I would like to say that Father Reggie and
the building committee were very good to work with. They were very open
to the design process and wanted to keep the integrity of the existing
building intact. I have to give credit to David Cruse, who was the
building contractor, and his staff and sub-contractors for a job well
done.